tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post115709384206299167..comments2024-01-16T00:32:06.076-08:00Comments on Rebecca York/Ruth Glick: WORK METHODRebecca Yorkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00868406006575223127noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1158125326907826392006-09-12T22:28:00.000-07:002006-09-12T22:28:00.000-07:00I love the tips, but alas life seems to get in my ...I love the tips, but alas life seems to get in my way.<BR/><BR/>Brit BlaiseBrit Blaisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02715123723770842970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157492454527846452006-09-05T14:40:00.000-07:002006-09-05T14:40:00.000-07:00Kimberly, I found I could turn out a first draft m...Kimberly, I found I could turn out a first draft much faster. I used to edit once on the screen then three or four times on paper. Now I edit once on the screen and two to four times on paper. I just can't shorten that part much.<BR/>RuthRebecca Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00868406006575223127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157491779208881802006-09-05T14:29:00.000-07:002006-09-05T14:29:00.000-07:00Ruth,Your comments are so helpful. Thank you so mu...Ruth,<BR/><BR/>Your comments are so helpful. Thank you so much for sharing your process.<BR/><BR/>You talked about editing your manuscripts, how many edits (approx.) do you go through and how does this number differ from when you were a new writer?<BR/><BR/>I would think that editing every day as you do must cut down on the amount of overall editing that's needed. Is that true?Kimberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00507243614119852995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157293773854426912006-09-03T07:29:00.000-07:002006-09-03T07:29:00.000-07:00Julie, I sounds like you are really on your way! I...Julie, I sounds like you are really on your way! It always makes me crazy when somebody describes a writing method and tries to promote it as the only way to go. You do have to figure out what works for you.<BR/><BR/>In my case, I worked on my first novel and read chapters in the seminar I was taking at the local Community College. I had been taking this seminar for over a year when I started the novel, so I knew the people in it and trusted their opinion. In fact, after I'd taken the seminar for several years, I asked some of the people to form a critique group with me, and we are still meeting--um--25 years later!<BR/><BR/>So I did read each chapter to them and got feedback. Then I edited the whole book myself. And edited it again the way I always do. And edited it again.<BR/><BR/>RuthRebecca Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00868406006575223127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157285195662004522006-09-03T05:06:00.000-07:002006-09-03T05:06:00.000-07:00What a great topic. As a newbie writer I have alr...What a great topic. As a newbie writer I have already started to learn what does and doesn't work for me. I started out three months ago by writing a chapter and then having it critiqued, fixing that up and then going to the next chapter and doing the same thing. By the end of the third chapter I was hating this book and the critiques were depressing me. I decided then that I would just write the book and look back later. It was a little hard at first but I have adjusted. I write only 2-5 pages a day (with a handful of more productive days) so I have a ways to go to get my productivity up. Every day when I sit down to write I will review what I wrote the day before mostly just to get me back in to where I was. (although I can't resist making a few changes)As I sit down to write my last chapter today I know there are a lot of things I have to go back and fix but hopefully the sense of accomplishment of finishing the first draft will get me through those rough days of editing.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the post of your process. I love hearing what others do to so that I can continue to learn and improve my process.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157235919891246332006-09-02T15:25:00.000-07:002006-09-02T15:25:00.000-07:00My sense is you're spot on. I think writing has a ...My sense is you're spot on. I think writing has a lot to do with getting into the rhythm of it, into the "zone." And if you keep ditsing around with the details, you lose the rhythm and destroy the spell. I keep promising to try it your way. Now I'm going to go for it. I'll let you know what happens. Love the dolphin pic, btw.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157233973121241862006-09-02T14:52:00.000-07:002006-09-02T14:52:00.000-07:00Toby, I'm glad the comments helped. Something (ga...Toby, I'm glad the comments helped. Something (gasp) I even leave a blank in the text--rather than go look something up! Instead of interrupting the flow, I can look it up later.<BR/>RuthRebecca Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00868406006575223127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157232972444678022006-09-02T14:36:00.000-07:002006-09-02T14:36:00.000-07:00Yes, I think deadlines really prod me to write fas...Yes, I think deadlines really prod me to write faster. I tend to mosey along if there are no deadlines, but faced with them, I can pick up the pace. My problem is I tend to get bogged down in making all the details work in first draft, even if they're not vitally important to the story. I find it hard to let go and move on to the next chapter unless I have everything down pat in the one I'm working on (though I know,intellectually, there are bound to be changes further on in the writing processs). It really was helpful to see in black and white how you do it. I'm going to try some of your techniques. Maybe they wil hustle me along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157212828233534082006-09-02T09:00:00.000-07:002006-09-02T09:00:00.000-07:00Caroline,it would certainly be harder for me to ke...Caroline,it would certainly be harder for me to keep up the pressure on myself if I didn't have contracts. But I would still have to write, because that's what I DO. <BR/><BR/>There's no good balance in this business. Either writers are having problems because they are not selling, or they're doing well, and their publishers are pressing them to work faster. Neither is good.<BR/><BR/>RuthRebecca Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00868406006575223127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157209413925769252006-09-02T08:03:00.000-07:002006-09-02T08:03:00.000-07:00You are such an inspiration! I write much the same...You are such an inspiration! I write much the same way as you do, usually working on two books at once. The difference is I have had far less success. And you're so right--if you get out of the habit of writing those ten pages a day as I have recently, it's hard to get back into the work ethic. I became terribly discouraged at not having found a good agent, not having another sale, waiting for 18 months for editors to make a decision, etc. that it's easy to be a slug. A lot of us look up to you and your good example. You've inspired me and I'll get back on schedule today! Thanks for sharing.Caroline Clemmonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14914658854159456335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157172854074118582006-09-01T21:54:00.000-07:002006-09-01T21:54:00.000-07:00Judy, it took me a long time to figure out that I ...Judy, it took me a long time to figure out that I could write fast. Also, writing is my only job, so I can devote most of my time to it. <BR/>I remember reading Fred Pohl's autobiography. He said he had to write every day. If he didn't, then he might not write for two years. It's not that bad for me. But if I skip a few days, it's harder to get back into the grove.<BR/>RuthRebecca Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00868406006575223127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157154969226461032006-09-01T16:56:00.000-07:002006-09-01T16:56:00.000-07:00I write the way you do, editing the previous pages...I write the way you do, editing the previous pages then moving ahead. I just put out half the amount of pages a day that you do, but I haven't been writing as long as you have. <BR/><BR/>I haven't tried writing more than one book at once either, even though I have plotted down stories and written some of the scenes. I've put them away until the book I'm working on is done. Unless of course I have a dream about it, then I write it down.<BR/><BR/>JudyJ. M. Sabelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09165553769534708463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157137903784409472006-09-01T12:11:00.000-07:002006-09-01T12:11:00.000-07:00Julia, fear of deadlines helps a lot. Sometimes to...Julia, fear of deadlines helps a lot. <BR/>Sometimes to get back into a book, I have to read the whole text of what I've already written. That will pull me back. And as I read, I always see things I want to fix.<BR/>RuthRebecca Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00868406006575223127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157136894674923122006-09-01T11:54:00.000-07:002006-09-01T11:54:00.000-07:00Kimberly, I guess it's partly a matter of experien...Kimberly, I guess it's partly a matter of experience. If I have to rewrite, I just do it. Generally, these "place holder" scenes affect the emotional content of the story. One thing I find is that when I've changed the motivation in a scene, it may not change the whole emotional landscape of the manuscript. Sometimes it adds "texture" or layers to the conflict between the characters or to their relationship. <BR/><BR/>After I figure out what was really supposed to be happening in the scene, I carefully go throught the scenes that follow, making sure that they make sense in terms of the new information.<BR/><BR/>I just came back from a research trip to Boston. I went there to look at Copley Square and the interior of Trinity Church, as well as the walk from the Hancock Tower to the square. Seeing the locations changed a lot of the physical landscape of the story. But I was lucky that it didn't change anything emotionally. While I was in Boston, I rewrote the scenes to make sure I had all the information I needed. Then I went through the rest of the ms, making sure it all matched.<BR/><BR/>When I figure out that I need to change something, I do it as soon as possible. I always feel much better when I get it straightened out.<BR/><BR/>Right now, I'm editing the beginning of the Boston story. It's hard for me to drag myself into it because the heroine has changed so much during the course of the story. She's had a major attitude adjustment, and it's not as much fun writing her the way she was when the story started. BTW, it's called WAIT UNTIL DARK, and it takes place during a black out in Boston. The bad guys stage a terrorist attack on a reception at the Hancock Tower. And h/h have to deal with it.<BR/>RuthRebecca Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00868406006575223127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157135864146947432006-09-01T11:37:00.000-07:002006-09-01T11:37:00.000-07:00Ruth,I am an incredibly slow writer and would love...Ruth,<BR/>I am an incredibly slow writer and would love to increase my productivity. Your comment about the "placeholder scene" intrigued me because I do much the same thing. The problem is when I figure out the "right" scene and go back and write it I often need to make adjustments in other parts of the ms. Does this happen to you? And if so, how do you deal with it?Kimberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00507243614119852995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157132069982521812006-09-01T10:34:00.000-07:002006-09-01T10:34:00.000-07:00Let me know how it works out.RebeccaLet me know how it works out.<BR/>RebeccaRebecca Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00868406006575223127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13025557.post-1157128069622390762006-09-01T09:27:00.000-07:002006-09-01T09:27:00.000-07:00Ruth, These are GREAT tips--I'm in the midst of a ...Ruth, <BR/><BR/>These are GREAT tips--I'm in the midst of a session on boosting productivity, so I'm a sponge for this sort of thing; thank you for sharing your technique!<BR/><BR/>JennAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com